interesting gig. >> i bet it's a very interesting gig! >> and i'm situated right in the newsroom, so i'm kind of like an embedded reporter. >> and they've got to talk to you, too, don't they? >> there's no rule about that. but the people at "the times," they've been very -- they're used to having a public editor, they understand how it works. so everyone's been very courteous and nice. >> now, they had daniel there -- >> dan oakron was the first. about ten, well, nine years ago. it came about after the whole jayson blair scandal. >> i think it's fascinating, too, as a conservative that reeds a newspaper every day, and always have read the newspaper, there are certain biases that i know are built in. not so much for any other reason, than geography and, but i always see the public editor as a great opportunity, to be a leveling wind and i think it's worked pretty darn well over the past decade, don't you? >> there have been some highlights and i think that, you know, lots of times, a couple of times, the public editor has made pretty strong statements about just what you're talking about. dan
